Chartist, you bring up fracture treating. I have personally done the engineering design for hundreds of fracture treatments and if anyone desires, I would present a missive summarizing the physics and mechanics behind implementing a treatment. I have been away from the actual work for about 25 years, but the treatments are the same in the rock, however there have been some improvements in surface equipment, fluids and proppants that have occurred since my day.
One of the points of the thread was to spark conversation around the profit motive and what should be allowed; for instance this forums inception was for silver. Interesting we are willing to excavate the earth and motivate those to do as such with our dollars in the name of silver, gold, and copper, but if one is searching for ngas using fracking or coal capping mountains it is different. Perhaps it is because there are alternatives to ngas, coal, etc. just as there are alternatives to private prisons. We choose those that do the least damage for the most reward I assume. Stem cell research? Seems as if it is not so much 'if we have an alternative' but an almost inert, religious morality. As far as my pseudo-science astrology predictions and politics goes: some believe some don't. The truth is somewhere both out of reach and within sight.
Oh, I knew that would would hit a nerve with you Sandy.... laugh. If I was really in a situation where a vote was needed I would certainly get a lot more info regarding the process. There's plenty of info around. How much is slanted??, there's lots of money to be made and that can have a great impact on truth and honesty. Only time is really going to tell us whether or not the technology is going to hold up as sound. Will they tell us if it doesn't? or does it get shoved off onto something else. Is the ozone layer diminishing due to man or is it natural or is it at all? There are lots of man-made processes that have come and gone leaving their scars. Coal, Oil, Mining in general, Nuclear, man-made carbon emissions (ozone again) etc. I don't believe playing with what we sit on is a good idea, especially in light of green technologies which seems to get squashed or stunted by fossil fuel technologies. Isn't it time for us to start moving forward? When it's really profitable for us to do so, then we will. Protecting there interests IMO. The one that really irked me was the Gulf of Mexico incident. Why in God's name would anyone ever conceive the idea of drilling outside the safety zone? How much damage resulted from that? This is not an attack on you or your expertise, but there is a line in everything that common sense say's you don't want to cross.
Here's an interesting article. Elastic money. https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/banking-crisis/federal-reserve-elastic-money-ny-clearing-house-certificates/